Comments on: Occupy and the church

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:52:08 +0000

Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors – wise words from Jesus. Time is overdue for the biblical year of Jubilee with debt cancellation. Great to see the church rise from its slumber. For millenia the bible message condemning usury was upheld. Recent centuries have seen this evil being accepted. Usury is the basis of debt based capitalism and we need the ancient wisdom that condemned this enslaving practice and promised freedom and care for ones neighbour.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:20:24 +0000

Thanks for the comments everyone! In particular Rose: It’s about inviting the Church to participate in direct democracy, and I agree 100% that we need to be careful in our terms of engagement ..

Some may also be interested in the following event taking place this Sunday at Occupt London / St Paul’s on Martin Luther King day:

http://occupylsx.org/?p=3031

By: Sam Amico

Sam Amico — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:34:34 +0000

Keep the Faith !!!

By: Rose Ardron

Rose Ardron — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:08:59 +0000

The church is a powerful institution (and not homogenous either.) I am wary of embracing wholeheartedly. Some churches/faiths have been leaders and advocates for change, equality and justice. Others trade on their stake in the establishment, working to maintain the current order based on inequality and injustice. One example of poor track record would be womens rights and autonomy.

Any further movement toward coalition with ‘the church’ needs to include some analysis of power and hierarchy. Are we inviting the church to participate in direct democracy or are we trying to appropriate some of their leverage in the establishment and hoping some of their power and position will rub off on us?

By: Gan

Gan — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:59:56 +0000

.. here in the US the clergy have been a solid member of occupy movement from the beginning, and now, a new front is about to open up, lead primarilly by Black churches.

http://www.readersupportednews.org/opinion2/441-occupy/9281-black-churches-to-energize-occupy

Just recently, Rev. Jamal Bryant in Baltimore invited the folks at Occupy Baltimore to work with him, and then declared his 10,000 member strong MEGA-church a part of the Occupy Movement. That’s a huge development. And this is just the beginning.

More info here:
http://www.occupydream.org

By: radfax

radfax — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 15:13:02 +0000

There seems little point for debate as the truth is clear as day.
The church is supposed to be representative of the will of God. The religious leaders of the People are the false prophets for they do not uphold the goodness that is the underlying message and principle for the People’s of the World. Who are these People who say that the only way to understanding the one in all is through them? We are all, we are only devided by those who would wish for us is to be controlled by their misdirections and wars. No one owns all, it is for all, not the few. The message is quite clear, love your fellow human being. It has nothing to do with control, power or the faithless words of men. The plan is for people to look after each other and the planet along with all the creatures. Who are these people who profess to be as wise as the one in all? Beware of the false prophets that bleed you and lead you astray, for they will up and leave you at the end of the day. Whilst we sweat and we suffer for what we believe, take off he cover to see that we bleed. I think of you, I think of me, strive to survive to reach liberty, smile embrace here we go “Free Flow”