Comments on: Milliband joins the right-wing consensus

By: Robertissimo

Robertissimo — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:23:36 +0000

Simon, not enough to go around? si what is the wealth distribution in this country? how much does the average boss earns more than the average worker? city bonuses still being paid at tens of millions of pounds? Come on.

By: Robertissimo

Robertissimo — Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:21:05 +0000

Mr Milliband you are rubbish. Rubbish as a supposed left wing leader and rubbish as a want to be tory, with your “blue labour” gambits which are even more vacous than Mr Cameron’s “Big Society” a.k.a spin for toffs. There was hope of a change in direction for labour and a return to some sort of democracy here in UK, when you attended and spoke at the anti cuts demo earlier this year. I thought wow this may mean that labour will return to being a real alternative to the tories…how wrong I was.

By: Simon

Simon — Sun, 26 Jun 2011 16:01:36 +0000

The problem with socialism is that it considers only what people need, not what is actually there. It’s all right saying that people need council houses or benefits, but the money just isn’t there to pay for them. In which case, the correct thing to do is indeed to ration the limited resources on the basis of moral character.

You allege that everyone’s needs can be paid for through tackling tax avoidance. If Labour had thirteen years to do it and didn’t, maybe that’s a sign that it would be impossible? Regrettably, tax avoidance is an inevitable consequence of globalisation; rich individuals and corproations can act across borders, while governments cannot. Besides, the economic model we have necessitates treating the rich with kid gloves. I’ll explain why:

In our system, the workers create wealth, but cannot use that wealth to pay their living costs. Rather, the wealth goes to the managers, who share the wealth amongst their workers. If the managers are asked to pay more in tax, thjey will simply pay the workers less to compensate, or worse take the jobs elsewhere.

Oh, the this isn’t just due to private ownership of the means of production. It happens in the public and voluntary sectors too. It’s an inevitable consequence of human nature; those with the ability to take more for themselves will do so.

In order for people to create wealth, it requires investment by the rich. Through this, those with money will always have the power regardless of what anyone does. Inequality is inevitable.

By: Annik Piriou

Annik Piriou — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:35:33 +0000

This is so depressing. I am now officially disenfranchised. I was brought up with ‘old’ Labour and had always voted for them until Blair. If this leader is going to do nothing but appease the Daily Mail types then I despair. z victor one is right, what was the point of dutifully paying his dues if this is how he is treated. The only comfort I can offer him is that there are vast numbers of people that know this is just evil and I think that at some point there will be a new social democratic movement here. The internet and it’s subversive potential gives us some hope, as does the political engagement of the young and energetic ( which I’m not )

By: z victor one

z victor one — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:47:40 +0000

Miliband said that “it’s just not right for the country to be supporting him not to work”

Can these people even be on the same planet has me? Having been unfortunate enough to have been left disabled through various problems requiring massive morphine dosage on daily basis i find these comments very offensive indeed.Was a time when i worked for 29 yrs and paid a lot of monies in tax etc,how can these idiots then say i should be working etc..i cannot work.what am i to do? kill myself?

By: gtw

gtw — Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:19:12 +0000

yeah