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	<title>Comments on: Jeremy Hardy thinks&#8230; about people&#8217;s concerns</title>
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		<title>By: John Peters</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/jeremy-hardy-thinks-about-peoples-concerns/#comment-226069</link>
		<dc:creator>John Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 22:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I could say exactly the same to you about reconsidering your position. I do not base my comments on a single report and it&#039;s frankly of no relevance - it argues against there being &gt;2 generations in a cycle of benefits. So what? I base my comments on experiences working and living in two towns both with a number of areas of deprivation. And I will most definitely not reconsider my view that a sizeable proportion of ill-feeling against those that remain on a cycle of benefits comes from within the same areas but from those that do make the effort to work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I could say exactly the same to you about reconsidering your position. I do not base my comments on a single report and it&#8217;s frankly of no relevance &#8211; it argues against there being &gt;2 generations in a cycle of benefits. So what? I base my comments on experiences working and living in two towns both with a number of areas of deprivation. And I will most definitely not reconsider my view that a sizeable proportion of ill-feeling against those that remain on a cycle of benefits comes from within the same areas but from those that do make the effort to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Lulu Agate</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/jeremy-hardy-thinks-about-peoples-concerns/#comment-221406</link>
		<dc:creator>Lulu Agate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Peters: 
To say, &#039;the same communities as those on benefits but who do work&#039; is to fall for the trick perpetrated by the government of viewing workers and claimants as Us and Them. 

Certainly there are people who claim benefits without the intention of changing their lives so that they are not reliant on them. However they are very much in the minority. This was revealed in 2012 when the Joseph Rowntree Foundation published its report which tested the claim so often made by those wishing to prove that benefit claimants &#039;get stuck in a life on benefits&#039; that there are countless families in Britain in which three generations have never worked, &quot;Under 1% of workless households might have two generations who have never worked – about 15,000 households in the UK. Families with three such generations will therefore be even fewer.&quot;

More details of this report are available in this excellent and clear article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/06/welfare-britain-facts-myths
I suggest you read it and reconsider your position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Peters:<br />
To say, &#8216;the same communities as those on benefits but who do work&#8217; is to fall for the trick perpetrated by the government of viewing workers and claimants as Us and Them. </p>
<p>Certainly there are people who claim benefits without the intention of changing their lives so that they are not reliant on them. However they are very much in the minority. This was revealed in 2012 when the Joseph Rowntree Foundation published its report which tested the claim so often made by those wishing to prove that benefit claimants &#8216;get stuck in a life on benefits&#8217; that there are countless families in Britain in which three generations have never worked, &#8220;Under 1% of workless households might have two generations who have never worked – about 15,000 households in the UK. Families with three such generations will therefore be even fewer.&#8221;</p>
<p>More details of this report are available in this excellent and clear article: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/06/welfare-britain-facts-myths" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/06/welfare-britain-facts-myths</a><br />
I suggest you read it and reconsider your position.</p>
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		<title>By: John Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 13:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So...why don&#039;t you get out and speak to a lot of people that live solely on benefits?  I can tell you from experience that an awful lot of the ill-feeling exists in those that live in the same communities as those on benefits, but who do work. They see neighbours, friends and in some cases, members of their family that have no intention of working under ANY circumstances.  This anamosity is very real and it&#039;s not just from those that exist in their middle/upper class ivory towers - far from it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;why don&#8217;t you get out and speak to a lot of people that live solely on benefits?  I can tell you from experience that an awful lot of the ill-feeling exists in those that live in the same communities as those on benefits, but who do work. They see neighbours, friends and in some cases, members of their family that have no intention of working under ANY circumstances.  This anamosity is very real and it&#8217;s not just from those that exist in their middle/upper class ivory towers &#8211; far from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Turtle</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/jeremy-hardy-thinks-about-peoples-concerns/#comment-221349</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 11:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The duty of politicians of conscience is to say so. To listen, yes, for a bit. Then to say, ‘I hear your concerns, but they’re bollocks.’ That’s just common sense.&quot;  

The duty of politicians of conscience is to say so. To listen, yes, for a bit. Then to say, ‘I hear your concerns, and I shall do something about them.’ That’s just common decency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The duty of politicians of conscience is to say so. To listen, yes, for a bit. Then to say, ‘I hear your concerns, but they’re bollocks.’ That’s just common sense.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The duty of politicians of conscience is to say so. To listen, yes, for a bit. Then to say, ‘I hear your concerns, and I shall do something about them.’ That’s just common decency.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick © graham (@smile_of_decade)</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/jeremy-hardy-thinks-about-peoples-concerns/#comment-221346</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick © graham (@smile_of_decade)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 11:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[indeed. Every prisoner, first time they go to jail, tears. 
Every prison, 
without fail,
punishing 24/7
most asylum seekers live with that fear due to being victims of appalling crime.
...

...

thinks...

bedroom tax...

let&#039;s tax the bedrooms of the cabinet instead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>indeed. Every prisoner, first time they go to jail, tears.<br />
Every prison,<br />
without fail,<br />
punishing 24/7<br />
most asylum seekers live with that fear due to being victims of appalling crime.<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>thinks&#8230;</p>
<p>bedroom tax&#8230;</p>
<p>let&#8217;s tax the bedrooms of the cabinet instead.</p>
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