Comments on: Mythbuster: Immigration – the real story

By: Halima Brewer

Halima Brewer — Mon, 13 May 2013 14:23:50 +0000

I would like to urgently know more about the present drive inspired by UKIP to leave Europe. I have a feeling that that issue is overflowing with myths as well, – about how much it costs us, about Europeans swarming into Britain – the lot.
thanks for this.btw, it is very good. I work with immigrants so I know most of it.

By: supermink

supermink — Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:47:47 +0000

I totally agree with defending asylum seekers and countering the ill informed nonsense the likes of the Daily Mail etc spout.

..but red pepper needs to respond to the comments left by the likes of Tomassi above.

The idea that increasing the population year on year to pay for the burden of pensions doesnt seem to add up and is wishful thinking short term-ism.

The free movement of labour is part of the neo liberal
agenda so we need to take that into consideration when responding to large numbers of workers that are moving from the east European countries to do in a lot of cases low paid work.

Its true that every citizen in the EU is allowed to move to any other EU country to look for work but in the case of lower class UK citizens they are always at disadvantage because they speak only English.

At a time when council services are being cut and the building of social housing practically non existent then it creates tension and competition for housing and jobs in the most unequal country in the western world.

Some established small business are being under cut and have folded , also self employed building workers have had to drop their prices to compete.I have been on strike recently and no matter how many times I gently persuaded my east european colleagues they crossed the picket line.These sort of issues give the likes of ukip etc support.

Of course there needs to be a living wage as an answer to some of the issues above but that is not likely and what we are dealing with is multiculturalism in a class society and that creates divisions and I can see many people I work with turning to the right for answers.

By: Barry Scoot

Barry Scoot — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:42:40 +0000

I really want to forward this onto a whole variety of EDL / BNP supporting morons that I know personally, but is there any chance of providing reference links to back up the facts on here?

By: Verbal Terrorists

Verbal Terrorists — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:53:15 +0000

Excellent article RedPepper, as usual. It’s scarily similar to the points we raise in our song “Build Bridges Not Borders”, in fact the opening line says:

“I’m about to bust up some myths about asylum with rhymes on the beat”

Anyone who liked this article will surely enjoy the song:

http://bit.ly/vc6r4R

Solidarity!

By: Claire

Claire — Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:45:12 +0000

arrychad says:

“Asylum seekers are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country,so why do so many carry on to blighty… ”

Did you read the article? If you’ve paid someone to take you to a safe country then that’s where you’ll end up. And indeed MOST refugees do end up in the next door country where they’ll be safe.

“a good majority will find work in the black market”

Evidence for this?

“they get all their bills paid and clothing allowances,top up on phones,free health care,”
As does anyone on benefits. Not sure about the phone bit though – since when do phone bills get paid by the dole?

“they are far better off than an unemployed single native”
But only if they do black market work as you’ve suggested – something which anyone on the dole could do if they were inclined. Or are you suggesting that white Britons never work cash in hand whilst claiming dole?

By: Legal Wrangle

Legal Wrangle — Sun, 24 Mar 2013 23:18:58 +0000

This piece seems to assume that all immigrants come here through the correct means, when we all know that not all do. It strikes me as a naive view.

By: Tomassi

Tomassi — Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:14:36 +0000

The problem isn’t asylum seekers its to do with Eastern Europeans. The article suggests it is only asylum seekers who have immigrated here, when in reality hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants are here as a result of the EU. Its not asylum seekers who are draining our system its legal immigrants.

http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/371398/Leo-McKinstry
This paints a better picture of England

By: arrychad

arrychad — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 01:20:11 +0000

Asylum seekers are supposed to claim asylum in the first safe country,so why do so many carry on to blighty… as for the poor living means,a good majority will find work in the black market [real world not socialist fantasy] and they get all their bills paid and clothing allowances,top up on phones,free health care, they are far better off than an unemployed single native who as to spend hours in job clubs and job searches for 71 quid a week..try living on that

By: maxine reed

maxine reed — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:52:01 +0000

Figures represent lack of basic world wage being globally agreed to provide human needs for all families as in parity across world. Its symptoms of high decades of unemployment which are world planned abusive global fiscal management. Used as tool to recruit for wars of theft aim is also to promote gain via inculcating addictions in young before aware of dire personalconsequences – sexually, filially, fiscally even health-wise.
Spritually bankrupt – often with no work these young are drawn to further emotional damage of killing for money supporting vile miltary complex in an illegal dominance war – over land & resouces that are paid on profits from drug & sex sales – sadly using young as slaves wracking profit to pay for mercenery armies -who layer in the tension, fear & mayhem ready to cause new ‘reason’ for wars.
Also the moral decay – first enhanced by alcohol & gambling is made dead easy for idle hands – developed further by destroying loving spiritual family lives losing vital cohesion – as bonding for ‘homelife’ so further harmed yet again – seen in all major global conflicts made by greed & selfishness – cycle goes on anon – seen past centuries.
Cut it now in world with ‘global general strike’ for £350 pro-rata to every ‘housholder’ for guarenteed pay funds with government cover for security of mortgage – money centralbanks supplied bottom up to individual accounts of one housholder running homes caring for old young and frail – but lovingly caring even supply order for basic needs.
this is ‘real’ life – why not – go for it everyone together!!!!!

By: Lesley Hedges

Lesley Hedges — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:58:34 +0000

A large proportion of migrants come here from countries that were former British colonies. The UK’s high position on the list of richer countries of the world is due to their work and the resources we took. It’s only fair that they should come here and share that wealth, which the UK still has in spite of the recession.