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	<title>Comments on: Palestinians in Israel: Ethnocracy, not democracy</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan Connelly</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/ethnocracy-not-democracy/#comment-63105</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Connelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Colin Smith,you seem to be somewhat mixed up. there were actually nio such thing as &quot;palestinians&quot; until the 1970s - when they were invented by the Soviet Polit bureau.  

Indeed, the adjective &quot;palestinian&quot; was if anything used to describe the Jewish community of the Land before Israel was created.  Hence, the newspaper the &quot;Palestine Post&quot; or the &quot;Palestine Philharmonic orchestra&quot;.

So you really must get your history sorted out or else you risk sounding like a complete idiot (which I am sure you are not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Colin Smith,you seem to be somewhat mixed up. there were actually nio such thing as &#8220;palestinians&#8221; until the 1970s &#8211; when they were invented by the Soviet Polit bureau.  </p>
<p>Indeed, the adjective &#8220;palestinian&#8221; was if anything used to describe the Jewish community of the Land before Israel was created.  Hence, the newspaper the &#8220;Palestine Post&#8221; or the &#8220;Palestine Philharmonic orchestra&#8221;.</p>
<p>So you really must get your history sorted out or else you risk sounding like a complete idiot (which I am sure you are not).</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/ethnocracy-not-democracy/#comment-60434</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To David Stern: If you had been the victim of ethnic cleansing by a colonial settler movement that has no roots in the region, which forcefully expelled 850,000 Palestinians, which leveled 531 Palestinian villages and replaced them with Zionist settlements, whose people were raped, assassinated, subjected to organized murder and atrocities, as in at least 50 villages in Palestine, whose homes were leveled and looted, whose ancient books were destroyed or seized and held forever, who have been subjected to one of the most shameful episodes in human history, a veritable crime against humanity, I&#039;d feel a tad irritated too. Grow up David. Go find the facts, not the propaganda produced by the Zionist state. You stole land in 1948 that belonged to others, you stole it violently and cruelly, with that strutting arrogance that echoes the Afrikaners and Nazis whose techniques you emulate. That you did not value the Palestinian inhabitants of the land testifies to the violent racism at the heart of Zionism and the Israeli State. As every day passes the world learns more about the atrocities committed by the IDF, and turns against Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To David Stern: If you had been the victim of ethnic cleansing by a colonial settler movement that has no roots in the region, which forcefully expelled 850,000 Palestinians, which leveled 531 Palestinian villages and replaced them with Zionist settlements, whose people were raped, assassinated, subjected to organized murder and atrocities, as in at least 50 villages in Palestine, whose homes were leveled and looted, whose ancient books were destroyed or seized and held forever, who have been subjected to one of the most shameful episodes in human history, a veritable crime against humanity, I&#8217;d feel a tad irritated too. Grow up David. Go find the facts, not the propaganda produced by the Zionist state. You stole land in 1948 that belonged to others, you stole it violently and cruelly, with that strutting arrogance that echoes the Afrikaners and Nazis whose techniques you emulate. That you did not value the Palestinian inhabitants of the land testifies to the violent racism at the heart of Zionism and the Israeli State. As every day passes the world learns more about the atrocities committed by the IDF, and turns against Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/ethnocracy-not-democracy/#comment-54948</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To David Stern - I think you&#039;ll find most of the &#039;hatred&#039; is going the other way. 

Palestinians have a right to be angry that Israel has taken their land, demolished their villages, waged war on them for decades, etc. 

Israelis&#039; hatred of Palestinians, on the other hand, is based far more on the idea that they are a &#039;demographic threat&#039; - that is, if Palestinian citizens are allowed to thrive and breed, they are perceived to threaten the Jewishness of the Jewish state. 

A more racist ideology than that you will not find. But that is what lies behind the apartheid-style laws and attitudes that govern the Israeli state&#039;s relationship with those Palestinians who are supposed to be its own citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To David Stern &#8211; I think you&#8217;ll find most of the &#8216;hatred&#8217; is going the other way. </p>
<p>Palestinians have a right to be angry that Israel has taken their land, demolished their villages, waged war on them for decades, etc. </p>
<p>Israelis&#8217; hatred of Palestinians, on the other hand, is based far more on the idea that they are a &#8216;demographic threat&#8217; &#8211; that is, if Palestinian citizens are allowed to thrive and breed, they are perceived to threaten the Jewishness of the Jewish state. </p>
<p>A more racist ideology than that you will not find. But that is what lies behind the apartheid-style laws and attitudes that govern the Israeli state&#8217;s relationship with those Palestinians who are supposed to be its own citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: David Stern</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/ethnocracy-not-democracy/#comment-54503</link>
		<dc:creator>David Stern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 15:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we really expect Israeli Jews to treat Palestinians the same as their fellow Jews and greet them with open arms? The Palestinians have been trying to wipe out the Jews for over 60 years. They have call for the destruction of Israel every day. They have openly expressed their Jew hatred , they teach their children Jew hatred, they have launched intifadas, suicide bombings, kidnaps, slaughtered babies by slitting their throats, bombed cafes, hotels.etc etc. How can you expect the Jews of Israel to ignore all this and act as if everything is ok.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we really expect Israeli Jews to treat Palestinians the same as their fellow Jews and greet them with open arms? The Palestinians have been trying to wipe out the Jews for over 60 years. They have call for the destruction of Israel every day. They have openly expressed their Jew hatred , they teach their children Jew hatred, they have launched intifadas, suicide bombings, kidnaps, slaughtered babies by slitting their throats, bombed cafes, hotels.etc etc. How can you expect the Jews of Israel to ignore all this and act as if everything is ok&#8230;..</p>
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