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	<title>Comments on: Can&#8217;t pay, won&#8217;t move: resisting the bedroom tax</title>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/cant-pay-wont-move-resisting-the-bedroom-tax/#comment-216476</link>
		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in a 3-bed house with my two sons - both over 18 and both full time students at university.  According to my council, because my sons pay rent elsewhere, i.e for student accommodation during term time, they don&#039;t live at home, therefore i am under occupying. But in a letter I received from Lord Freud ...
     &quot;Students studying away at university can be reflected in the size criteria for their parent&#039;s home.  However students must continue to consider and to use their parent&#039;s home as their only home, which would be established by them continuing to maintain regular links with it outside of term time&quot;.

To me, this means that if my sons come home for their holidays, which they do, then this can be considered their home.  But my council won&#039;t agree so I get no housing benefit (an no chance for DHP)  So 73% of my income, which is less than £10k pa, has to go on rent and council tax alone.

My neighbour on the other hand doesn&#039;t even live in her council house - she lives with her new partner. But her grown up sons come and go as they please, sometimes they stay overnight, sometimes they don&#039;t.

If the bedroom tax is designed to get people to move on and out of council accommodation once they no longer need it, ie when their children have grown and left home, then clearly it&#039;s NOT working.  My sons still need their home and we&#039;re threatened with eviction while my neighbour doesn&#039;t need her home and her sons use it as a place to doss down every now and then.  The difference is I&#039;m on a low wage and need help in the form of housing benefit,  my neighbour doesn&#039;t.

Where&#039;s the justice in that ?
And nobody can help.
The issue is no longer in the news. Nobody&#039;s interested any more and we&#039;re just supposed to suck it up, carry on either getting into huge amounts of debt, or get chucked out.

Given all the Tory party rhetoric about &#039;family&#039; why do we find ourselves in the position of having to relinquish ours ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a 3-bed house with my two sons &#8211; both over 18 and both full time students at university.  According to my council, because my sons pay rent elsewhere, i.e for student accommodation during term time, they don&#8217;t live at home, therefore i am under occupying. But in a letter I received from Lord Freud &#8230;<br />
     &#8220;Students studying away at university can be reflected in the size criteria for their parent&#8217;s home.  However students must continue to consider and to use their parent&#8217;s home as their only home, which would be established by them continuing to maintain regular links with it outside of term time&#8221;.</p>
<p>To me, this means that if my sons come home for their holidays, which they do, then this can be considered their home.  But my council won&#8217;t agree so I get no housing benefit (an no chance for DHP)  So 73% of my income, which is less than £10k pa, has to go on rent and council tax alone.</p>
<p>My neighbour on the other hand doesn&#8217;t even live in her council house &#8211; she lives with her new partner. But her grown up sons come and go as they please, sometimes they stay overnight, sometimes they don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If the bedroom tax is designed to get people to move on and out of council accommodation once they no longer need it, ie when their children have grown and left home, then clearly it&#8217;s NOT working.  My sons still need their home and we&#8217;re threatened with eviction while my neighbour doesn&#8217;t need her home and her sons use it as a place to doss down every now and then.  The difference is I&#8217;m on a low wage and need help in the form of housing benefit,  my neighbour doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the justice in that ?<br />
And nobody can help.<br />
The issue is no longer in the news. Nobody&#8217;s interested any more and we&#8217;re just supposed to suck it up, carry on either getting into huge amounts of debt, or get chucked out.</p>
<p>Given all the Tory party rhetoric about &#8216;family&#8217; why do we find ourselves in the position of having to relinquish ours ?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/cant-pay-wont-move-resisting-the-bedroom-tax/#comment-214579</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 23:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Labour talk about benefit cuts we should all be aware that Labour introduced the so called &#039;bedroom tax&#039; which is really a benefit reduction or &#039;spare room subsidy. So here&#039;s the truth from Hansard the official parliamentary record

the usual web prefix before the address below:
publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmhansrd/vo011219/text/11219w19.htm#11219w19.html_spnew5 

Hansard Parliamentary Record19 Dec 2001 : Column: 376W
Mr. Bercow: To ask the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions what was the figure for expenditure on the housing benefit under occupation pilot that was not specified on page 103 of the 2001 Departmental report. [18917]
Malcolm Wicks (Labour MP now deceased): The under-occupation pilot encourages housing benefit recipients living in under- occupied social housing to move to smaller and cheaper accommodation in order to make more efficient use of housing stock. The pilot is expected to run until 2003.
(scroll up a little from the link to find this quote)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Labour talk about benefit cuts we should all be aware that Labour introduced the so called &#8216;bedroom tax&#8217; which is really a benefit reduction or &#8216;spare room subsidy. So here&#8217;s the truth from Hansard the official parliamentary record</p>
<p>the usual web prefix before the address below:<br />
publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmhansrd/vo011219/text/11219w19.htm#11219w19.html_spnew5 </p>
<p>Hansard Parliamentary Record19 Dec 2001 : Column: 376W<br />
Mr. Bercow: To ask the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions what was the figure for expenditure on the housing benefit under occupation pilot that was not specified on page 103 of the 2001 Departmental report. [18917]<br />
Malcolm Wicks (Labour MP now deceased): The under-occupation pilot encourages housing benefit recipients living in under- occupied social housing to move to smaller and cheaper accommodation in order to make more efficient use of housing stock. The pilot is expected to run until 2003.<br />
(scroll up a little from the link to find this quote)</p>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/cant-pay-wont-move-resisting-the-bedroom-tax/#comment-214562</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 17:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never in all my years have I witnessed such a visious and vindictive attack on the most vunerable people in our society. Cameron has to be the most evil prime minister this country has ever had and it&#039;s about time he and his fellow cohorts did the decent thing and left government before they do even more harm. I have voted conservative all my working life and I can say it will be a cold day in hell before I do again well done Cameron it&#039;s another vote lost. 

If this government want to do something constructive then perhaps if they got off there backsides and did something to encourage manufacturers back to this country and helped to create meaningful jobs then straight away the burden on the welfare system would be considerably improved. If they got us out of the common market they would save 45 million pounds a day plus an addtional 68 million ponds a year and I daresay I could if I needed too come up with even more savings without such a vicious attack on the poorest in society.

This bedroom tax is nothing more than another welfare cut and I would love to see Cameron survive on £72.00 a week and pay water rates gas electric tv licence bedroom tax and if your lucky have something to eat and don&#039;t forget a decent set of clothes to go to if your lucky a job interview. I could go on and on because nothing has incensed me more than this evil bedroom tax.

Cameron do the decent thing and resign after you have sacked the rest of your government because your not fit too run this country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never in all my years have I witnessed such a visious and vindictive attack on the most vunerable people in our society. Cameron has to be the most evil prime minister this country has ever had and it&#8217;s about time he and his fellow cohorts did the decent thing and left government before they do even more harm. I have voted conservative all my working life and I can say it will be a cold day in hell before I do again well done Cameron it&#8217;s another vote lost. </p>
<p>If this government want to do something constructive then perhaps if they got off there backsides and did something to encourage manufacturers back to this country and helped to create meaningful jobs then straight away the burden on the welfare system would be considerably improved. If they got us out of the common market they would save 45 million pounds a day plus an addtional 68 million ponds a year and I daresay I could if I needed too come up with even more savings without such a vicious attack on the poorest in society.</p>
<p>This bedroom tax is nothing more than another welfare cut and I would love to see Cameron survive on £72.00 a week and pay water rates gas electric tv licence bedroom tax and if your lucky have something to eat and don&#8217;t forget a decent set of clothes to go to if your lucky a job interview. I could go on and on because nothing has incensed me more than this evil bedroom tax.</p>
<p>Cameron do the decent thing and resign after you have sacked the rest of your government because your not fit too run this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/cant-pay-wont-move-resisting-the-bedroom-tax/#comment-213763</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2013 20:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This government haven&#039;t a clue how the other half live.
I have 2 spare bedrooms and can&#039;t afford to pay, if I did pay then I&#039;d be left with £23 a week for food,cleaning stuff and personal items.
I just can&#039;t do it.

I&#039;ve already had three letters off the council, one saying that they&#039;ll seek possession. 
It has me ill with worry.

I&#039;m willing to move but where I live there&#039;s 7000 people who will need to downsize but there&#039;s only 50 1 bedroom places available.
I need to be near family, friends and familiar places because of my anxiety.
I don&#039;t know what to do anymore and there&#039;s thousands more like me.

Damn this Nazi like government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This government haven&#8217;t a clue how the other half live.<br />
I have 2 spare bedrooms and can&#8217;t afford to pay, if I did pay then I&#8217;d be left with £23 a week for food,cleaning stuff and personal items.<br />
I just can&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already had three letters off the council, one saying that they&#8217;ll seek possession.<br />
It has me ill with worry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m willing to move but where I live there&#8217;s 7000 people who will need to downsize but there&#8217;s only 50 1 bedroom places available.<br />
I need to be near family, friends and familiar places because of my anxiety.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what to do anymore and there&#8217;s thousands more like me.</p>
<p>Damn this Nazi like government.</p>
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		<title>By: jack says</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/cant-pay-wont-move-resisting-the-bedroom-tax/#comment-211903</link>
		<dc:creator>jack says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2013 12:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have not got the money to pay the bedroom tax. they say they will evict me if i do not pay it.I have 2 spare bedrooms and can not aford 2 pay the tax.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not got the money to pay the bedroom tax. they say they will evict me if i do not pay it.I have 2 spare bedrooms and can not aford 2 pay the tax.</p>
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		<title>By: les</title>
		<link>http://www.redpepper.org.uk/cant-pay-wont-move-resisting-the-bedroom-tax/#comment-211794</link>
		<dc:creator>les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2013 05:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if we all don&#039;t pay thy cannot evict every body it will cost moor than the BEDROMM TAX to get every one out]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we all don&#8217;t pay thy cannot evict every body it will cost moor than the BEDROMM TAX to get every one out</p>
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